Hate Comments, or, JS Mill in the 21C, Lovink and Scholz on
collaboration & cooperation
Like many bloggers, I tend to disregard and if
necessary erase blatantly negative comments. "Necessary": comments that are
racist, sexist, homophobic, "fascist," or otherwise just hateful, without
contributing thought (and by this I mean: a giving of pause, of respect, of
consideration, to what the other has said),
and so
on, I tend to delete, although not without
second thought and pause. On Abe's blog, for example, you can't post twice in
rapid succession, which limits the damage one can do. While it makes commenting
on more than one of his hosted blogs frustrating, it is there for this very same
reason: the (almost) anonymous scrawling of Internet
Hate.There
is a
pause that seeks to undermine the privilege of rationalist discourse while
calling for its generalized framework. The horizon of JS
Mill--that I might disagree with what you say, but will defend your
right to say it--is delimited. But how? First, it is delimited through its own
humanist logic, of the individual, the speaker, the voice, and so forth, but
we'll skip over that to think the pragmatic ways in which technics reroutes the
articulation through the medium employed. This medium is the Net, not Habermas' coffeehouse or the Victorian Commons.
The way I program it is this: on this
blog, this medium, of the Net, but also of the blogworld, I will delimit and
erase comments that are "hateful." At my own discretion, then, this is also my
responsibility as censure. However, anyone is welcome, and I cannot stop them,
from going through the productive
effort of setting up their own blog and
writing what they wish of what happens here or elsewhere. Although this too may
be subject to the laws of the land, I can't (and won't) do anything about
opinions in another forum, where, hopefully, the writer can be held accountable
for his or her words, at least insofar as those words are directed, pointedly,
at another. On this blog, I wish to
encourage discussion, and real-world attempts at (ir)rational communication, not
"hate," and I will not proliferate such comments. I don't wish to take Richard
Dawkins' concept too far, but anger forces memes; the arc proliferates
like attractors. On the other hand, and in general, the dynamics of this "hate"
is that once contact has been established with the malicious writer, the words
often, although not always, turn to ash.
(Update: and such has been the curious,
intriguing, and "personal" case with Yu, in the sense of a conviction that I
might even know this person, and here where there public and the private are
most blurred. A dialogue with Yu follows the comments to this
post). For the most part, "hateful" discourse
remains squalid to the Net. Perhaps the Net provides a venue for the anonymous
to voice their anger in all directions without actually having to go to all the
trouble of carrying out Beer Hall putschs. (And yet these putschs happen, today,
all too often).Or perhaps
the Net offers an opportunity for the touch and the reach without fear of the
return strike. And rightfully
so.That said, I had erased a
comment from a "Yu" < yu@hotmail.co.uk , IP
142.179.1.42>, who
returned shortly to post again, in an apparent attempt to engage a flame war
(Yu has denied this, and has not
carried out such antagonisms since). It was a
challenge for me not to erase the comment again, and not to write back with
spite. My challenge now is to generate a possible discourse, but also to
continue to turn this comment to the generalizable subjects at hand: this
media/medium, "hate," writing, the parameters of speech, free speech, free
writing, and the ways in which we interact, here, on this space, this time. That
these comments, from Yu, demarcate a discourse of what constitutes a taunt, is
fairly clear. Yet also a taunt that may be aimed at undermining my own position,
here, writing. The specter of the "I." Yu displays some metaphysical convictions
over the
truth, which is what has rendered this
possible commenting into an economy. Yu
writes:how cowardly that
you remove the negative comments. tobias is scared of the truth. tobias is
scared that others will find out the
truth.And what "truth"? This has
been the current motion--for whom is "Yu" to know the
truth?There is "hate:" no contact
(save for the lynch), no touch (save for the hit), no cooperation (save for the
mutual disgust). And always a "save," a salvationary gesture, and with a
combination punch of the
truth, which grants the (possibly defensive)
Nietzschean
chuckle.Expansion,
or Generalization to "Hate" Trebor Scholz and Geert Lovink
have discussed the tendencies of mailing lists to erupt in hate on -empyre- in regards to efforts at organising an
event dealing with [Free Cooperation]. The commenting system in the
blogworld provides a similar venue, although perhaps more anonymous, and not
always with a network of list support. At times the Net provides a shield to
vent one's anger without actually having to come to terms with anything
substantial, risk an investment, personal or published. Trebor writes, in the context of self-sacrifice in cooperation,
how:...not shying away from conflict
and finding save arenas in which to stage that negotiation is a possible
beginning.The German media
critic Christoph Spehr describes free cooperation as a
way of working together in which you remain independent and can walk out with
your contribution to the joint action under your arm. I don't know what that
would look like.Perhaps such a
scenario, employed here, requires rendering this blog as enough of a safe haven
to articulate my own writing without the immediate delay of "hate." By walking
away, one erases hateful messages, although not without acknowledgment. This
acknowledgment, however sharp the rapport, might lead to change. Geert Lovink
writes:I
can't stress enough the potential, the promise for individuals to transform,
while collaborating. This is an essentially different take from the division of
labour functionality approach in which the 'brigade' turns into one organism,
fulfilling the monumental tasks ahead. I guess we talk about free cooperation
because of its open end. It may as well end up in a positive New Age ideology
with Christoph Spehr as its Leader. In order not to end up there we need to
build in disruptions, empty space, brakes, time for reflection. Otherwise we may
start to believe in the cynical reading of cooperation as merely self sacrifice
and (self) exploitation.And Trebor:Online
and off we should demand relationships in which we are free instead of forced or
enslaved, situations in which we are independent and can negotiate and
re-negotiate the rules. And if our "haggling" does not work out, we withdraw our
effort or eventually withdraw from the collaboration. Collaborations need to
have incentives, not just risks.
posted. Wed - March 10, 2004 @ 12:36 PM
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